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Hey Coupley Fit fam, welcome back to another episode.
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If you don't wear your rings, does that say something about your marriage?
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I think so.
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In today's era, it's a hot topic.
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It's a hot topic, and we're ready to spill the tea.
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And I'm gonna tell you right now, my tea would be it would be piping hot.
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I'd be upset if you didn't have your ring on.
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I'm upset.
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I'm upset.
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Speaking of the disrespect, that's how I would feel.
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I would feel disrespected if you didn't have the ring on.
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And that's kind of it sounds like a bold statement, but I think back to, I mean, again, we were, this is, you know, we just celebrated nine years married.
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I think about what I invested also into the ring, just from that perspective, I need you wearing that every day, every moment.
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Do you know?
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Um, but also the the deeper than just the monetary aspect of what you put in, but also the meaning of it, right?
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Like, again, it's a major indicator of are you available or unavailable?
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I don't want you being out people thinking you're available.
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Yes, I think let's take it a step back before we kind of jump into modern time.
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Yeah.
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I know you were talking to me in the car about in the book of Genesis, in the Bible, and what's, you know, the meaning of more so the circle rather than the ring.
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If you can just explain a little bit more about that.
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Yeah, so biblically it was talking about the fact that it's not, it wasn't necessarily a you have to wear a ring, but more so the meaning and the symbolos and uh the symbolism of it being never-ending, the circle and infinity.
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I was like, oh wow, that's that's really impactful.
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Right.
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And then also just even how far it goes back in the book of Genesis of giving a seal or a ring, giving something that's a you know, lifelong commitment, just to let you know, like, girl, you would meet, you know, people going off the war war, all type of things, other colonies don't know if they're gonna come back.
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Like, girl, we we together.
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You know, I don't want you walking around together.
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We go together.
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I want people thinking, you know, you out here by yourself just because I'm not here today.
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Or this this week type of thing.
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So it just it's crazy how it does go that far back, and it's not just like this new thing where it's like, okay, you know, because again, some holidays and traditions, people feel like it's all being monetized, and the ring is all about how much so it's not not about how much money you spend, the dime, the this, but more so the symbolism of the actual ring, not how much it costs.
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Yes.
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And I want to quickly add to that the reason that it's also on your left hand and on that particular finger is because there is supposed to be, it's either a blood vessel or uh something of that nature that that goes to your heart.
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So it goes to your through your arm and it goes straight to your heart.
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So that's also another symbolism around the the ring, and then also being on your left hand on that particular finger.
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Oh, I mean, that you putting putting a whole game now, connect it to your heart.
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Yes, don't don't disconnect your heart, you know.
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Um but that's a guess a great call out.
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Yes.
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So I think that adding in both of those pieces, right?
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Kind of taking it a step back.
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I also would be curious to know when did it become a you know, quote unquote thing that you wore a ring and what during kind of what time period that would be?
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Um I would just be interested in that.
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But let's really talk about, let's talk about before we jump into like marriage and wearing your ring.
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The yes, we talked about the symbolism of the ring, but now let's get into a little bit of the that engagement part where we've talked about this in a previous episode.
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But what's the first question that people ask when you are engaged?
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That proposal happens.
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Oh my goodness, what is the what's in the carousel swipe over?
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What's in the IG reel?
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What's on the story?
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Show me the ring.
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Show me the ring.
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What did that mean?
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But whose ring specifically?
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Well, Beyoncé and them say, put a ring on it.
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Yes.
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If you like a thing, you should have put a ring on it.
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Yes.
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You know, and all of a sudden don't be mad when you see that he wants it.
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And then all of a sudden, all of the all of the ring pictures, yes, latte ring in it.
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Don't eat not even your car, hand on the steering wheel.
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Cute, cute.
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But you're right.
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Yes.
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I also want to add this piece in because this was something that even when we did this back in 2016.
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Do you remember we had the conversation of well, hold on.
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I'm not the only one that's engaged here.
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You are also engaged.
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So remember, I asked, I was like, would you be open to wearing a ring during our engagement period?
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And I feel like that's a hot topic because people are gonna be like, for what?
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He's not married yet.
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So why does he need to then wear a ring?
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Where that's not typically what happens.
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So I just wanted to get your thoughts on kind of that period when when I asked you that.
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We talked about it too.
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I think we we had an in-depth conversation about it.
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We did, and I and I think it's a great carlock that you mentioned that because it also laid the foundation for how you also felt about wearing a ring for your husband.
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Because that's a whole like that that's gonna be a part of this episode.
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Is is there a double standard where yes, the fellas feel like there's an expectation.
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She better have that ring on, yeah.
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All the money I spent on, but then you know, you that payment plan.
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No, but it wasn't a payment plan.
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Do what you gotta do.
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Hey, listen, judge free zone.
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Judge free zone.
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I'm gonna see you in two weeks.
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Okay, period.
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I'm gonna see you in two Fridays.
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Every two Fridays.
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Every two Fridays on payday.
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I'm gonna put something on it.
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I'm gonna put something on it.
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All right.
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You know, I'm I'm planning this out intentional.
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Yeah, so I technically I got you two rings.
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Correct.
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And I think so.
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We're gonna talk about two rings, but also I think the laying the foundation of wearing the ring because a perfect example.
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Yeah, you gotta love it.
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I mean, it's just like the love story that everybody.
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Oh, it was the Usher Chili.
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But everybody wanted the Usher and Chili, you're so right.
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You're so right.
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And so with Nellie and Ashanti, you know, seeing on the reality TV show, she bought him like a Super Bowl ring.
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I'm talking about rocked up, carried, bow, bow, bow, baby.
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Wait, but let's also not forget that it was engraved with the I love you, and then the heart that she used for love was a diamond, and it was shaped like a heart.
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She went all out, went all out, and basically he was like, and I think he was going on tour or something like that, and was like, you know, I'm good, I'm not gonna wear it.
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And I just saw you could see it in her face where it was just like, what do you mean?
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Visibly upset.
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Visibly upset.
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But I think, right, there's multiple aspects of that.
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Where did you guys talk about when we get married?
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Are you gonna wear your ring?
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Or hey, I'm buying this ring for you, not just with the hopes that you wear it, but like it means just as much to me as it does to you that I'm wearing a ring.
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Because again, it's not that you ever want to be tit for tat, but Ashanti didn't say, Well, I'm gonna take my ring off because you're not wearing yours.
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Yes, but sometimes I think in marriages that does happen, and now nobody's wearing rings.
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Yes, I think again to take it a step back because you kind of you jumped forward a little bit on they're married.
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So they're you if you're married, sure, you know, in my opinion, both people should be wearing a ring.
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But I was talking previously an engagement period, because again, that's not common.
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That's not common for men to wear rings during the engagement period like it is for women, right?
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Now it's it looks as if, oh, well, she's off the market, but I may still be out here.
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I may still be, you know, I'm still looking single because I don't have a I don't have a ring on.
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And at that time, we still were going, you know, kind of in and out of clubs, right?
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Not often, but you know, if a friend, if a friend had a um a party or something like that, they were typically doing it at clubs, because again, we were 22.
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You're in your 20s, you know.
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I'm sorry, we were 20, we were like 24.
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You know, when you're in a club, you're looking at clubs, you know, you're uh you're out a little bit more, you know, when you're in your early 20s.
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Right.
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So it looks like I'm, you know, I am spoken for, but then if you're just out with no ring, right?
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It looks like you're still single when hold on, we're we're engaged.
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What are we what are what?
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So I just wanted to get your thoughts on when I asked you that.
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Yeah, because I think also just as we are talking more about this, people, I'm sure the listeners are probably like, this is crazy.
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What are you even talking about?
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This doesn't even happen.
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But I just wanted to get your thoughts on it.
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Yeah, no, I I just thought it was a good, um, a good foundation laying moment because I saw obviously your request, it made sense.
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Like again, it works it's it's two ways.
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It's everything that you just said.
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It was like, no, it makes sense.
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Is it a little, I don't want to say unconventional, right?
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But it's just so yeah, you're probably unconventional because everybody doesn't necessarily do it or talk about it, or it's not approach, but I think now again, you're you're having a conversation earlier, so that you're not having a conversation after you spent six months getting a ring built and somebody's not wearing it when it's like, hey, we're in the lead up stages now, and you got me a ring, I also got you one.
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Yes.
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Like, oh, thank you.
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You know what I'm saying?
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Like, thank you.
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Yeah, you know, and it doesn't have to be the forever ring, which I think is a whole nother topic of like, even if you are traveling or on tour, that ring, it's the symbolism, even if it's not that ring that you're using to get married.
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Yes, I I agree.
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And I just wanted to quickly get your your thoughts on it because I don't know if people because it's not talked about that often, I do wonder if if other women also feel that same way of yes, I have my ring, but he also, we're during this engagement period, we're literally planning our wedding.
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And is he uh, you know, does it look like he's also spoken for as well?
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So now, jumping ahead, I liked what you said about having a conversation about rings, right?
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And what does that mean to the other person?
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Because if it's not talked about, then when the situation comes up, like you mentioned in the Nelly and Ashanti case, she's feeling some type of way, she's upset about it.
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And I believe later in the episode he ends up going on tour, and I don't think he brings his ring with him.
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She's upset about it, and he was saying, Oh, well, I don't want to get robbed, and you know, those things, which on one end, for their situation is understandable because celebrities are getting robbed constantly.
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And so I do understand that to a certain degree, but there's plenty of ways.
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There are lab grown diamonds, there are the athletic, you know, uh bands that you can wear.
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There's other ways that you can wear a ring without having to necessarily wear that one in particular, but it sounded like for Ashanti, that was something that was very that was pivotal for her and what she wanted to see from both of them in this relationship.
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Yeah, and a lot of pro athletes are great example.
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You know, you see some of the quarterbacks and different players where clearly you're not maybe wearing the diamond owl ring or whatever.
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Which I don't think that's an expectation.
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But there they are instead of wearing no ring, because again, I think that's a great example.
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Like this is performance, because that's what some people say is like my job.
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Yes.
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I'm out there on the you know, utility or or I'm traveling and I may be in places where my ring could, you know, get me robbed or whatever.
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Completely understand that concern, but then it's like, okay, do we wear nothing or is there an alternative?
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Right.
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And I think having that conversation or preparing for that, a lot of things is preparation.
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So preparation would be seeing the athletes that wear the rubber, like it's a rubber band or not rubber band.
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It's a silicone ring that you can wear during sports while you're showering, etc.
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And so I remember even getting some of those and having some.
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So, like even in my briefcase, if something were to happen, and you know, you never want to lose your ring or any of those things.
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But if you do, it's like, man, I got a backup just in case.
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Or if I am playing sport or weightlifting or whatever, you can switch into that.
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So just being mindful, I think, is a big element and in preparation for it.
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But again, if you're not having a conversation, it's hard to even prepare for it or get a silicone ring or get a uh, I don't know, I forget the rings that basically it's like the diamond, but it's the lab grown?
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The yeah, the lab-grown diamond.
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So you could again, if you're traveling across a country or in another country, like you've got to be careful.
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Yes, which I really love that, honestly.
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You know, to be able to have something where it's like if somebody did take this, I'm not yes.
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And I know even for for us, the amount of traveling that we do that we're so blessed to do, honestly, you just being mindful that you know you are depending on where you're going, you are an American going there.
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And uh right now, right, there's there's a lot of heat around uh Americans in other countries, and we've heard of Americans being kidnapped, and just it can be a little bit unsafe.
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And so if there is a situation too where you are bringing your diamond ring with you, that's something I've even mentioned to you.
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I was like, would you be open to, you know, potentially purchasing another ring, like a lab grown diamond ring?
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I think I saw them on IG.
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Like honestly, you can find them like IG, Pinterest, and they're shining.
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So like it's one of those, they're shining.
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And you can get it for, you know, I think if you get it on a steel, it's under a hundred bucks, right?
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And it's just an alternative to still wear a ring, but it's not your actual ring that you don't want something to happen to.
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Cause I know for even me, sometimes, you know, we go some places and I'll just turn my ring around like the, you know, just my main ring, I'll turn that um into my palm so that you can't see what I necessarily have on because you just never know.
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A subway in New York, honey, you'll get jacked.
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You get to walk in somewhere, look around and people looking at you like you're lunch.
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Yes, yes, yes.
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So, to your point, right, just a different alternative for that ring.
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So, okay, so let's dive into the meat of it.
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If you are not wearing your ring, does that say something about your marriage?
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So I think I'm gonna look at this from two approaches.
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And this is there's not a double standard, but I think and there in some ways there there kind of can be.
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Okay.
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So on one end, does it say something about your marriage if you're not wearing your ring?
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I think for some men, depending on your conditioning and exposure, i.e., did your dad wear a ring?
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Did other men wear a ring?
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Because uh for a lot of because I see it too, just observations, right?
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Of both growing up and being out about, especially in business and different things.
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And I'm and I'm talking globally, like I'm seeing people in other countries, and I'm just like, okay, yeah, nobody.
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And I know you're married.
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You know what I'm saying?
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We're talking 20 plus years.
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You know what I'm saying?
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So it's just like interesting, right?
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And so I don't sometimes you know, you don't always ask to pry into like, hey, why don't but I will observe if I see their wife or see them together, like is the wife wearing a ring?
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And the answer is almost like always.
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So I do see that difference at times where it's like, okay, there are some husbands that don't wear their ring, but I think it may be more telling if the wife is not wearing her ring or all of a sudden stops wearing her ring.
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To me, that's more of an indicator than if a husband's not wearing his ring.
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Because unfortunately, like it is, I would say, like, I don't want to say 60-40, but like it could be 60.
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I would say I'm willing to bet 30% don't wear a ring, 30 to 40 percent of like married, yeah, married men may not wear a wedding ring, like 30 percent, I think.
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Okay.
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This is just a this is literally, I have no data.
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No, no data.
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There's no data behind this.
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This is just your observation.
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This is my observation.
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Ballpark guess is probably like, you know, three out of ten may feel like I don't have to wear a ring.
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I'm married, but I don't have to necessarily wear a ring.
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And I think that that's a little bit different than maybe women that are married in a percentage.
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Okay, and why do you think men don't wear a ring?
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Again, like I was saying, I think some people just feel like I again, the ring, like you said, for the engagement, it's such a big thing for sh the wife.
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Show me your ring.
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You're not asking to see the the fiance his ring or hey man, what does your ring look like?
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It's very much more one-sided towards the wife.
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And also, yeah, I just I I think that's been so normalized that you know, yes, yeah, and so well, it's interesting you say that because in my observation as well, just from what I have seen from a um what I've seen from men, same thing that you're talking about, where men may or may not be wearing their rings.
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I'm even talking about people of the cloth.
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Like sometimes you see a brother that's like of the cloth, like you, you know, like clergy.
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You know, you're you're you're not just a member of the church, you like, you know, yeah, you're a decision maker.
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You know, you're counting the, you know, come on, but you don't go, you know, you may not have the white gloves on, but you might be counting some in some ties and offerings.
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Come on now.
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That's like, dang, so-and-so been married for 50 years, don't have don't wear a ring.
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It's like interesting.